Comments on: The (Re)Emergence of the Radical Israeli Right http://www.gaditaub.com/eblog/the-reemergence-of-the-radical-israeli-right/ Gadi Taub's Site and Occassional Blog Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:33:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: Pat Patterson http://www.gaditaub.com/eblog/the-reemergence-of-the-radical-israeli-right/#comment-18 Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:14:23 +0000 http://www.gaditaub.com/eblog/the-reemergence-of-the-radical-israeli-right/#comment-18 Recreate the TransJordan from the West Bank excluding Jerusalem and claimed areas contiguous to either the border of Israel or Jerusalem. Make Gaza a protectorate of Egypt but as a demilitarized zone, ie., no heavy weapons. Let Gaza become a giant, well tiny, free trade zone, autonomous internally while Egypt would handle foreign policy, a new constabulary and most importantly to the Egyptians the tax authorities. Even though the possibility of attacks from these areas would remain the governments of Jordan and Egypt would have a legal mandate to suppress these attacks. Recreate the TransJordan from the West Bank excluding Jerusalem and claimed areas contiguous to either the border of Israel or Jerusalem. Make Gaza a protectorate of Egypt but as a demilitarized zone, ie., no heavy weapons. Let Gaza become a giant, well tiny, free trade zone, autonomous internally while Egypt would handle foreign policy, a new constabulary and most importantly to the Egyptians the tax authorities.

Even though the possibility of attacks from these areas would remain the governments of Jordan and Egypt would have a legal mandate to suppress these attacks.

]]> by: maria http://www.gaditaub.com/eblog/the-reemergence-of-the-radical-israeli-right/#comment-13 Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:04:02 +0000 http://www.gaditaub.com/eblog/the-reemergence-of-the-radical-israeli-right/#comment-13 Question to everyone how many think a new war will break out in a few months or weeks it seems to be the prevailing thought evrywhere.I am a jewish person abroad i do not have much hope for israel and i dont see it has a future long term Question to everyone how many think a new war will break out in a few months or weeks it seems to be the prevailing thought evrywhere.I am a jewish person abroad i do not have much hope for israel and i dont see it has a future long term

]]> by: Piranha http://www.gaditaub.com/eblog/the-reemergence-of-the-radical-israeli-right/#comment-12 Tue, 22 Aug 2006 20:16:46 +0000 http://www.gaditaub.com/eblog/the-reemergence-of-the-radical-israeli-right/#comment-12 Good point, Bad Vilbel. You are right that the comfort of the Palestinian refugees is a minor factor in choosing a place to resettle them, so that they no longer will be refugees. The major factor is to resettle them in a location from which they will not be able to continue to terrorize Israelis, at least as easily as they do so now. That being the case, another Muslim country would be appropriate, but not essential. Good point, Bad Vilbel.

You are right that the comfort of the Palestinian refugees is a minor factor in choosing a place to resettle them, so that they no longer will be refugees.

The major factor is to resettle them in a location from which they will not be able to continue to terrorize Israelis, at least as easily as they do so now. That being the case, another Muslim country would be appropriate, but not essential.

]]> by: Rod Davies http://www.gaditaub.com/eblog/the-reemergence-of-the-radical-israeli-right/#comment-11 Tue, 22 Aug 2006 19:59:03 +0000 http://www.gaditaub.com/eblog/the-reemergence-of-the-radical-israeli-right/#comment-11 Plan D could be: Israel declares entirety of territory to be Israel, but agrees to lease the parts "recovered" in 1967 to the Palestinian National Authority for 999 years. In turn the Palestinian National Assembly declares the entirety of the territory to be Palestine but also leases the area now regarded by the UN to be Israel to the Israeli government for 999 years. Neither recognises the other as a sovereign state but as a lessee having exclusive use of the areas they lease. Both states are recognised by the UN and have seat in General Assembly. Instead of there being treaties between Israel and Palestine, which require them to formally recognise each, there will be variances to the leases. Thus technically both can pretend that the other doesn't exist except under terms defined by themselves. Theoretically therefore neither religion could possibly be offended because legally neither has ceded one square centimetre to the other, ownership remains with the lessor. This is a completely mad idea which will be dismissed. But in a completely mad region it may just be the solution. Plan D could be:
Israel declares entirety of territory to be Israel, but agrees to lease the parts “recovered” in 1967 to the Palestinian National Authority for 999 years.
In turn the Palestinian National Assembly declares the entirety of the territory to be Palestine but also leases the area now regarded by the UN to be Israel to the Israeli government for 999 years.
Neither recognises the other as a sovereign state but as a lessee having exclusive use of the areas they lease. Both states are recognised by the UN and have seat in General Assembly.
Instead of there being treaties between Israel and Palestine, which require them to formally recognise each, there will be variances to the leases. Thus technically both can pretend that the other doesn’t exist except under terms defined by themselves. Theoretically therefore neither religion could possibly be offended because legally neither has ceded one square centimetre to the other, ownership remains with the lessor.
This is a completely mad idea which will be dismissed. But in a completely mad region it may just be the solution.

]]> by: bad vilbel http://www.gaditaub.com/eblog/the-reemergence-of-the-radical-israeli-right/#comment-10 Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:38:33 +0000 http://www.gaditaub.com/eblog/the-reemergence-of-the-radical-israeli-right/#comment-10 I'm afraid I have no quick fix solution. I just wanted to say excellent and very insightful post. PS: Palestinians would not be "comfortable" in Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Egypt or Saudi Arabia any more than jews would be comfortable in Sweden or Norway. Maybe it's time to think about more realistic and pragamatic solutions. I’m afraid I have no quick fix solution. I just wanted to say excellent and very insightful post.

PS:
Palestinians would not be “comfortable” in Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Egypt or Saudi Arabia any more than jews would be comfortable in Sweden or Norway.

Maybe it’s time to think about more realistic and pragamatic solutions.

]]> by: Piranha http://www.gaditaub.com/eblog/the-reemergence-of-the-radical-israeli-right/#comment-8 Mon, 21 Aug 2006 22:10:08 +0000 http://www.gaditaub.com/eblog/the-reemergence-of-the-radical-israeli-right/#comment-8 Plan D: Transfer. The arabs who live in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip are mostly refugees according to the UNRWA definition. As refugees, by definition they are not living in their permanent homes. That being the case, they should be resettled in an area in which they will be comfortable, such as Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, or even Egypt or Saudi Arabia. There is no reason at all to give them permanent homes west of the Jordan River. Problem solved. You're welcome. Plan D: Transfer. The arabs who live in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip are mostly refugees according to the UNRWA definition. As refugees, by definition they are not living in their permanent homes.

That being the case, they should be resettled in an area in which they will be comfortable, such as Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, or even Egypt or Saudi Arabia. There is no reason at all to give them permanent homes west of the Jordan River.

Problem solved. You’re welcome.

]]> by: Harry http://www.gaditaub.com/eblog/the-reemergence-of-the-radical-israeli-right/#comment-6 Mon, 21 Aug 2006 19:15:31 +0000 http://www.gaditaub.com/eblog/the-reemergence-of-the-radical-israeli-right/#comment-6 Plan D: 1948: Small Nakba : not all Arabs left Eretz Israel 2006: Big Nakba : all Arabs leave Erets Israel Plan D:

1948: Small Nakba : not all Arabs left Eretz Israel
2006: Big Nakba : all Arabs leave Erets Israel

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